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-with what happened to the original Nite Owl toward the end, if it didn't happen, well wouldn't NightOwl 2 have a pretty big problem with Veidt ? 10:40, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

What? -- Dhalia 20:50, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the question is, if Hollis hadn't been murdered by a NY street gang, would Dan ben even more angered about what Veidt had done? I remember reading somewhere that it sorta cuts down on his rage, as almost certainly the guilty Top Knots would be among the dead. And at least Durf is among the corpses shown, so implicitly they are all dead.